Shooting the Benjamin Rogue
I'd been shooting the Nosler eXTREME 145 grain
bullets with the polymer tip, and been having good
results. This has consistantly been the most accurate
bullet out of the gun. I went down to a Vogel 116
grain HP as this is the most accurate .357 bullet out
of a couple of my Korean big bore guns. While
producing acceptable 75 yard groups for predator
hunting, they were not quite as tight as the
eXTREMEs. I then tried the the Vogel 135 grain
thinking they would give me an increase in velocity
over the 145 grain and better accuracy than the 116
grain bullet. In fact they did neither, so I've
continued to use the Nosler eXTREME 145 grain
bullets as my primary Rogue hunting load and saved
the 116 grain bullets for volume shooting such as
Other Hunting Ranges
Of four bullet configurations shot over the chrony, it is not surprising that the highest velocities
were obtained with the lightest (116 gr) projectile. However the difference in velocity between the
116 gr and the 145 gr bullet was not that great, and the 145 gr produced higher velocities than the
135 gr hollow point. As expected, the velocity of the 167 grain bullet was substantially lower.
With respect to energy generation, the 145 gr bullet out performed the other bullets with
substantially higher levels across the 6 shot string. I don't know if this is because the ballistic
coefficient of these bullets is better, if it's because the bullet and rifle were disigned to work
together with the rifle tuned specifically for this bullet, or if it is a combination of these factors.
The other thing that I found interesting was that the difference in energy output between the 116
gr, 135 gr, and 167 gr bullets was less pronounced than I would have expected, especially on shot
number 4, 5, and 6. I mostly use this gun for predator hunting, and am therefore content to stick
with the 145 grain Nosler eXTREME bullets. If I was going to use the gun for target shooting or
plinking I'd actively search for a less expensive bullet with better accuracy.
manufacturers as well. It seems like these guns
will be based on the soon to be released JSB
.303 pellet, this being a very popular caliber in
the parts of the world that were once
members of the British empire.
The Rogue is a PCP that is charged up to
3000 psi, which in the initial release could only
be charged from a high pressure tank. The
newer model can be charged with a hand
pump as well.
The gun is controlled via an onboard
microprocessor that allows various
parameters to be optimized for a specific
bullet weight. In the current software revision,
the bullet weight and the desired power
settings of, low, medium, and
I shot a few groups at 50 yards and 100 yards with the Nosler eXTREMEs and acchieved good results.
Above are two targets obtained at these distances, and while not a target gun, all shots sent down range
at 50, 75, and 100 yards would have easily been in the kill zone of a coyote. This performance is in line
with my other big bore rifles, some are a bit more accurate and some a bit less. I'll be trying out a few
other bullets and pellets over the coming months, and will add those results to this page as dtata is
Where Does the Rogue Fit?
I've been asked many time since the release
of the gun "what do you think of the Rogue,
really"? My answer is this; I like the
performance of the Rogue as a 100 yard
coyote rifle. I think it has marginal power as
a big game gun, though some may choose to
use it for this application. If I was to use the
gun on bigger game it would be inside of 50
yards so that the bullet would be more likely
to pass through completely.and leave a
better blood trail in case the animal needed
to be tracked.
But at 100 yards most shooters could
place bullets consistantly into a coyotes kill
zone, and the gun has the power to anchor a
pig at the right distances and selective shot
My Thoughts on the Rogue
I believe that the Rogue combines good accuracy, moderate power, fast cycling action, and a
solid 6 shots for most hunting applications. In fact with some projectiles you can get a couple of
extra shots, but the POI shift is more pronounced. In terms of sound signature, this is the quietest
of my big bores, certainly lower intensity than any other big bore gun in out-of-the-box trim.
The ergonomics of this rifle are good, the pistol grip provides a consistant hold and the trigger
access is good. The retractable AR style buttstock allows the length of pull and fit to be adjusted
to the shooter, or for the same shooter using different positions. The threeway safety controls are
easily accessed, and the forestock ergonomics are also good.
The ability to set the onboard microprocessor for a specific bullet is a great idea, however in my
experience the low setting was not of much use, and I didn't see the big differences in external
ballistics between medium and high settings with the individual bullet types, other than that the
shot count went up with the medium setting leading me to suspect there is air being wasted and
provides room for further optimization. Crosman has recently programmed the gun with new
operating parameters, which is said to reduce the number of options yet improve the performance
characteristics of those provided. I am sending my gun back to be reprogrammed in the next
couple weeks, and will retest on these and other bullets once the gun returns.
If asked about the downside of this gun; I feel that it is much too big, not only in terms of overall
length and height, but weight. When shooting coyote from a rest these dimensions make it very
stable, but if you need to manuever through heavy brush, tight spaces, or carry it long distances it
is somewhat awkward.
There have been reports of problems with the magazine sticking, I have four different magazines
that have been used extensively. one hung up pretty consistantly from the beginning so was
replaced without further incident. I've noticed that there can be misfeeds with the shorter lighter
bullets, but for the most part when using the 145 gr Noslers the gun feeds reliably.
I've been shooting and hunting with the Benjamin Rogue for sometime now, and it's
found a place in my big bore gun rack, which houses guns from several manufacturers
in .308, .357, .452, .457, and .50 caliber models. I did some early velocity meaurements
just to get a ballpark estimate on the power generated, but mostly shot the gun for
groups under hunting conditions and took it to the field.
| Recently I was asked to
provide some more
quantitative information on the
gun, so I've pulled up few of
the targets and velocity
measurement that I've
As most shooters know, this
is the first mass produced
big-bore manufactured by an
American company, though
there have been quite a few
US semi-production and
custom guns, and a number of
excellent production guns
coming out of Korea. There
are also new big bores about
to be released by the major
high can be selected. When I intially tested the gun, I didn't notice much difference between medium and
high settings, other than obtaining a higher shot count on medium. The power levels generated with the
medium and high settings were similar, leading me to believe that air was being wasted at the high setting.
For this reason I do most of my shooting at the medium velocity setting when hunting.
I'd always planned to use this gun primarily for predator hunting, with a self imposed limit of 100 yards
and usually trying to set up the 50 yards shot. I zeroed the gun at 75 yards and even though my scope is a
variable I almost always leave it set at 7x magnification, enough to see my target well, but not so much that
every shake or movement is intensified.
75 Yard Groups with 116 grain, 135 grain and 145 grain Bullets
Nosler 145 grain
5 shot (#1 was a
75 Yards Rested
Vogel 116 grain HP
75 Yards Rested
Vogel 135 grain HP
75 Yards Rested
|Nosler 145 grain
50 Yards Rested
|Nosler 145 grain
100 Yards Rested
If hunting in noise sensitve locations, the Rogue is hands down the quietest big bore around, and is my
first choice. I also like shooting it off a platform such as when going out on night hunts for predators in
Texas. But when hunting the same game on the Midwestern farms near where I live, we cover a lot of
distance on foot and are often in thickly forested areas where noise is not an issue, so I'll typically carry
one of my more compact guns. It depends on what you need and what type of gun you like, but if the
requirement is for a 100 yard predator gun that might be used to drop a pig at 50 yards when the
opportunity presents, keeps the noise down, and offers a quick second, third, or even forth shot, the
Rogue deserves a spot on your short list.